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Bugs Review / Update & Comparison. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:14:49 GMT

UPDATED TO REFLECT CHANGES NOTICED IN 6.2.B.1.96

This is an Bugs Review / Update / and comparison from what I could find in my experience with the Xperia Acro S on Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean.

For the record I recently updated mine from version 6.1.A.2.45 (4.0.4) to 6.2.B.0.200 (4.1.2)

But I keep my wife's Acro S on 6.1.A.2.55 to better contrast the difference and bugs... NOW WE ARE BOTH AT 6.2.B.1.96

Also, notice that changes made are at the end of each bullet point in color... Green meaning is fixed, orange somewhat not Sony's fault, does not apply as bug or a workaround is available, and red is trouble.

So this comparison will be focused on those Bugs, and I will also comment on the new features and the ones that were left out.

1) Camera / Album / Gallery

1.1) Error message of "Internal Memory Error".

SEEMS TO BE FIXED ON JB. BUT I HAVE YET TO TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES TO REPRODUCE ERROR AGAIN.

1.2) 3D Multi-angle pictures are saved twice.

THIS FEATURE SEEM TO BE REMOVE FOR THE JELLY BEAN UPDATE.

1.3) If I open a picture straight from the view finder, many times when I zoom in, it shows black squares as if there were patches missing from it.

THIS SEEMS TO BE FIXED

1.4) Sometimes when sliding to the next picture in Album or Zooming by double tap, the picture jumps outside of the screen area.

THIS WAS FIXED. NOW THE ALBUM IS SMOOTH AND RESPOND BETTER

1.5) Selecting a sharing option from Album should remember the application used to share. But every time I have to reopen the full list to find the app of my choice... (other phones keep the selection next to the 3-connected-dots sharing button) This phone resets that selection.

THIS WAS FIXED. THE MOST USED APP FOR SHARE GOES AT THE TOP.

1.6) While Quick Launch is an awesome feature, it does not work if I halfpress the shutter and then press completely... I have to press all the way quickly...

THIS WAS FIXED

2) Music

2.1) It is not common, but sometimes the music skips maybe due to load by other applications running.

HAS NOT HAPPENED AGAIN ON JB. GOOGLE CHROME TAKES HUGE CHUNKS OF RAM AND FORCE CLOSES OTHER APPS INCLUDING WALKMAN

2.2) Sometimes music does not resume once again after it was pause by apps such as received call, opening the camera.

THIS IS APP DEPENDENT AND IT ACTS BETTER. NOW WE CAN KEEP THE MUSIC PLAYING WHILE TAKING PICTURES EVEN IF THE SHUTTER SOUND IS ON.

2.3) Music interrupts when receiving a SMS, GTalk and while receiving instructions from Waze. But it works fine without interruption when receiving a Whatsapp message. This might be an Android problem unrelated to Sony's software.

THIS MIGHT BE AN ANDROID ISSUE.

3) Miscellaneous

3.1) Currently the Power Saver app resets its configuration after a phone reboot, so this makes it utterly unusable. This problem is found on other Xperia models.

THIS WAS REPLACED BY EXTENDED MODE. ASSUMED FIXED

3.2) Sometimes the Infinity view of contacts does not display all icons, specially when viewing a contact shortcut in Homescreen.

THIS WAS FIXED AND THE DESIGN IS DIFFERENT

3.3) This model is not able to display battery percentage natively, but the Xperia Advance can... And it is a native feature of ICS

FIXED

3.4) Lock Screen Wallpaper does not show, it only shows the same wallpaper chose on homescreen. No matter if I try to change it.

THIS IS STILL PRESENT. IF YOU HAVE SECURITY FOR YOUR PHONE SUCH AS FACE UNLOCK OR PATTERN LOCK IT WILL NOT DISPLAY A LOCK WALLPAPER NOR WILL HAVE THE MUSIC CONTROLS UNLESS MUSIC IS PLAYING.

3.5) By using a standard BT keyboard, there is a lack of key combinations, and when using arrows to select "Settings" from the notification bar, it is not able to do so. The only way to select "Settings" with a keyboard is from the App Drawer

NOW KEYBOARDS ARE NATIVELY SUPPORTED BUT THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR WINDOWS KEY, F1-12, PRINT SCREEN... SO YOU BETTER GET AN ANDROID KEYBOARD INSTEAD. NOTIFICATION BAR IS SELECTABLE BY KEYBOARD, BUT RECENT APPS IS NOT.

3.6) Sometimes when getting a call, the slider is not responsive. The solution is to hit Power button off and on. This might be an Android problem.

THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED YET

3.7) There have been a couple of times when the Accelerometer is not responsive. And accessing to the Service Menu, it shows no values for X, Y and Z. Solution is to reboot phone.

POSSIBLE HARDWARE PROBLEM OF MY UNIT

3.8) Even though there is values changing in Service test for Ambient light sensor, I see LITTLE change when using the phone.

AMBIENT LIGHT SENSOR WORKS BUT IT DOES NOT CHANGE DRAMATICALLY SO IS DIFFICULT TO PERCEIVE...

3.9) Even though description and MENU shows WiFi Direct as a feature, there is no way to activate it. But the Xperia Go has it in connection settings... So we are stuck with slow transfers via Bluetooth...

NO WIFI DIRECT STILL... VERY DISAPPOINTING

3.10) Most Mouse I have tried have only left click functionality and scroll... and the right and middle click, makes the same left click. Logically it should allow for a "menu" click, and/or a "back" click...

STILL PRESENT... ALL BUTTONS ON THE MOUSE DO THE SAME LEFT CLICK FUNCTION

3.11) Now this is a minor complain, and probably hardware related... but touches near the edge of the screen are registered to the extreme edge... almost like forcing the touch to the edge... making difficult to select taps slightly separated from the edge.

THIS IS PRESENT. PROBABLY HARDWARE RELATED.

NOW THIS ARE IMPORTANT NEW FEATURES FOUND (SONY RELATED). AND ALSO LEFT OUT FROM PREVIOUS VERSION. AND FINALLY NEW BUGS

NEW

Ability to add, delete and set Homescreen Pages (up to 7)
BT, WiFi, Sound and Data toggles on Notification Bar
Camera was revamp, with front and back toggle, Video Rec button, and pictures (1 MP) while recording video.
Walkman app has better shuffle and repeat buttons. Notification Bar buttons (pause and next track while compact, and all buttons if expanded)
Movies now show a small clip of where you left off so you can resume faster. (But still no subtitle support)
Small apps are present with the Recent App list.
App drawer now is better to customize, uninstall and share apps...
Now my Sony BT Car Stereo reads more info from the music playing.

NOT ANYMORE

There is no 3D pictures anymore. 3D Pano or Multi-Angle.
There is no fast scrolling using 2 fingers... This was particularly useful for list that did not have the scroll button on the side.
No overview of widgets... Ok to leave out.
Recent Apps shortcut is now achieved by double tapping Home Button instead of long tap...

NEW BUGS

Recording video in Full HD lags a lot.. and 720p also lags but less. FIXED IN .96 UPDATE

I am experiencing bluetooth reconnection problems with my Logitech keyboard. when I turn it off and on, it will try to reconnect but instantly drop the connection... I have to turn bluetooth Off on the phone.. and back On again. It Fixed itself... maybe a couple of reboot. It did not fixed itself... it is still present... IT FAIL TO RE CONNECT to my Logitech K810 Keyboard. Used to work wonderfully. STILL HAPPENS BUT LESS OFTEN IN .96 UPDATE
Volume Up becomes unresponsive after plugging headphones or even making a bluetooth connection. THIS WAS FIXED IN .96 UPDATE
A NEW BUG APPEARED MOSTLY WHEN USING HDMI. SOUND STOP FROM TV AND GOES THROUGH THE PHONE DIRECTLY. A WORKAROUND IS TO UNPLUG WHILE SOUND IS STILL PLAYING AND PLUG BACK IN

I hope this can be useful to Sony and other Xperia Acro S users...

Thanks

Diego.

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

fallend90 — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 03:02:00 GMT

Can you try plugging in your sony xperia earphone and pressing the volume up button for me? I'm having the problem where when I plugged in my earphone, the volume up button become unresponsive. I want to know whether it is just me or everyone else with the JB update having this problem. It is not in your list. Thanks

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 14:15:45 GMT

Yes, I try that out before posting this, because of all the people who post this issue... Nevertheless I did not find that problem with my device, but I will make sure to try it on my wife's Acro S after I upgrade hers...

I know some people, not just you have that issue, but I can't reproduce it on my device.

So far the only 2 bugs... I have found are the ones at the bottom of my post...

Video Recording... specially 1080p and some bluetooth connection problems... where I have to turn BT off on my Acro S and back ON again in order to re-connect to a Keyboard after I lost its signal... (The keyboard is design to quickly switch from a BT device to another, and when I try to connect back to my Acro S, it keeps trying but failing to connect.)

I will not update my wife Acro S until video recording is fixed... cause I want at least a good recorder in my home to be able to rec my 2 y/o boy

Well to my surprise... I just tried my BT keyboard and it works as it is supposed to... But from time to time start acting on me... Today I tried and its worst... I am rebooting the phone

PLEASE FIX VIDEO RECORDING and BT conections

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

Ahmar — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:50:31 GMT

jb 6.2.B.0.211 released.hope bugs are fixed

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

bengtner — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 15:47:54 GMT

Bluetooth seems to be unstable with 6.2.B.0.200. Streaming over bluetooth stops ocassionally. Phone calls hang up, and I have reconnect issues as well. I have to manually connect to the bluetooth device many times.

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:35:51 GMT

OK this problem just happened to me a couple of days ago...

The weird thing is that it happened with a mini jack standard 3.5mm cable (plugged to an aux in, car stereo) AND also happened using bluetooth with some Altec Lansing Portable Speakers...

Volume Up did not responded until a reboot was made... I had to volume down and then slide on screen to turn up the volume...

And when I had it plug to the Aux In, the Power key also stopped responding, except when I forced shut down (Power + Volume Up)

This is very annoying...

For us in Venezuela, which is an incresing market for Samsung, and now a little bit of Sony... we have not received the .211 update... This and video lag MUST be fixed...

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

Luisguevarach — Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:14:51 GMT

dquilon support my post: http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/493726#493726

I'm from Venezuela too and I don't have the .211 update either...

Thx

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:12:40 GMT

Recent update to .96 fixed most problems in Jelly Bean for my Acro S...

Thanks Sony for the support to this models.

You just re-gain a fan, and look forward to buy Z1 or similar...

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

Nils-Arvid — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:36:51 GMT

The phone can drop the sound in the bluetooth headphones after 10 - 20 min conversation and you have to switch the sound to the speaker and then back to bluetooth again to resume the conversation.

This bug is also seen in Xperia V.

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:05:59 GMT

Ok, good to know, I will see if it reproduces in my device...

What I do find incredibly annoying is the way to access Recent Apps by double tapping the home button... it should have stayed the way it was, since it is also the same way with most android devices across brands...

Sony should have used a long tap for the menu buton or something similar to invoke Google Now...

really a bad move...

And a minor complain, the Calendar widget now occupies a minimum of 3x2 space... where it used to be 2x2... oddly, when I updated my wife's Acro S she had the widget already set to 2x2... and it stayed that way... though you can't add another one like that.

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

BilKos — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:40:46 GMT

One that didn't happen in previous firmwares than .96 (though it was reported by some users):

If you charge the phone when it's off, the green led remains on when you unplug the charger. I've left it for some minutes and it didn't turn off. Pressing the power button once, turns it off.

Does this happen to any of you?

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

tom_babauta — Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:14:58 GMT

The green led that remains lit after charging does happen on my XAS too. Seems to be a bug on other xperias as well..

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:01:36 GMT

I haven't had that problem... green led turns on while charging and turns off after being unplug...

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

KrizsaKish — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:08:10 GMT

just wanna ask if you recommend the JB since it's been updated late august. i have an acro s and i'm still running my ics and i'm scared to update it to jb because of the bugs.

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

_alexdon_ — Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:15:58 GMT

Yes,you should update to JB,even though some complain about it.The phone performace improves a lot and you will enjoy many more features on JB.

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

krizsa — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:23:43 GMT

By the way my phone is xperia acro s.

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:44:01 GMT

Hi Krizsa, well the reason I made this comparisson was to help each owner of an Acro S to decide if the upgrade was worth it for them or not...

Like I said at the bottom, there are a couple of trade off when upgrading, most of them are really not important, such as the specific use of Mouse buttons or an external Keyboard shortcuts.... but there are some that are annoying in my opinion..

I loved the fact I could go through a long list in ICS by sliding 2 fingers across... This feature was removed so now you depend on the list scroller to the right (if the list have it, but no all do... see Settings > App... and scroll)

The other feature that was remove was 3D camera, specially Multi Angle effect, I think this was a truly unique one that makes a lot of WOW when I showed to other people... Sad to see it gone, specially since I still have a couple of those pictures in my gallery....

Finally the Recent Apps list used to be found by holding the Home Key... now it needs a double tap which is incredibly annoying, even after getting used to...

Remember that Video Recording was fix in the latest .96 update.... so no worries here...

And you will get a lot of goodies with Jelly Bean... Most notably:

Small Apps (under Recent Apps list, double tapping Home Key)

BT, WiFi, Data and Sound TOGGLES in the Notification Bar

Better way to arrange Home Screens and App Drawer

Expandable Notifications (specially useful for Walkman, Whatsapp, gmail)

And the Camera UI was truly improved...

I would definitely say Go For It.... if you are getting the latest update.

Good luck

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

KrizsaKish — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:57:36 GMT

thank you i hope it goes well for me thanks again!!!!!

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

Memo85 — Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:56:15 GMT

When we can expect new update to fix wi-fi issue for Sony Xperia S ?

I got problems with wi-fi since 6.B.0.2.200, 211. was not able for me, and now im on 6.2.B.1.96 wi-fi not working !

Dont say to me: "try repair with PC Companion or SUS coz that dont work, i cant do repair with PC Comanion it got some bug always stuck on "prepare" proces".

Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

dquilon — Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:46:04 GMT

Nils-Arvid:

"Re: Bugs Review / Update & Comparisson. ICS and Jelly Bean.

2 weeks ago

The phone can drop the sound in the bluetooth headphones after 10 - 20 min conversation and you have to switch the sound to the speaker and then back to bluetooth again to resume the conversation.

This bug is also seen in Xperia V."

I think this bug is related to the one I mention when using HDMI.

The audio output gets routed to the headphone instead of keeping it through the TV.

It happens to me frequently and my solution is to unplug the HDMI cable and then plug it again.

This sounds very similar... since I think is an issue with the sound output control, the one that tells it should go through speaker, headphone, HDMI, jack...

Hopefully we receive a small update fixing this issue, because I confirmed it in both Acro S we have in the house.